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Discussion => Drug safety => Topic started by: outoftime20 on June 22, 2012, 04:07 pm

Title: I don't think MXE is safe even though I love it.
Post by: outoftime20 on June 22, 2012, 04:07 pm
Does anyone else not trust MXE? I did 1 gram over the course of about 2 weeks. I am into health and check my vital signs with a monitor every day. I noticed my blood oxygen level plummeting on the stuff and had abnormal heart rates as well. I also just had a feeling like something was off, had an odd stomach cramp like feeling and my pee felt like there was hot sauce in it or something! I absolutely love the stuff, especially in small doses throughout the day, but I don't think it is worth sacrificing my health for... Anyone else feel the same way?
Title: Re: I don't think MXE is safe even though I love it.
Post by: CaptainTrips on June 22, 2012, 04:16 pm
I really like MXE and don't know much about its long-term effects but the few times I have indugled Ive caught myself thinking: "Wow this is reeeeeally very powerful" and that has lead me to believe it might not be the heathist hobby in the entire world.
Title: Re: I don't think MXE is safe even though I love it.
Post by: tordemon on June 22, 2012, 04:29 pm
Depends on how safe you're talking, here. While MXE is safer for your liver than Ketamine, it still has some heptatic toxicity. A gram over the course of 2 weeks I would probably throw in the "less safe" category, and indulging a few times I would probably throw into the "more safe" category, but when it comes down to it, all drug use has inherent dangers, and so figuring out what drug use styles are worth the risk is really up to the user.
Title: Re: I don't think MXE is safe even though I love it.
Post by: weedsaves on June 22, 2012, 04:34 pm
Thanks for the info OP. I think it is good protocol not to fully "trust" any RCs, and to use them very sparingly.
Title: Re: I don't think MXE is safe even though I love it.
Post by: mito on June 22, 2012, 04:47 pm
MXE is awesome!!!!
Title: Re: I don't think MXE is safe even though I love it.
Post by: happyroller1234 on June 22, 2012, 04:55 pm
I almost hit an M-hole last night, while lying in bed listening to Sigur Ros.  I took at least two 30-60 sublingual doses, and snorted at least two 20-40 mg lines, but I think I passed out before I holed.  I could definitely feel it starting, though.   I don't understand.  I've been using MXE off and on for months and still haven't fucking holed.  I haven't noticed any detriments to my health up to this point, either.
Title: Re: I don't think MXE is safe even though I love it.
Post by: Gary Oak on June 22, 2012, 10:53 pm
You're taking the substance way too much and way too often in my opinion. I milk my gram bags for months at a time for instance, way longer than two weeks dude! :o Learn how to pace yourself and take a break from the stuff every few days. It's no wonder MXE is banned with people like you ruining it for us. :-\
Title: Re: I don't think MXE is safe even though I love it.
Post by: outoftime20 on June 23, 2012, 02:38 am
I almost hit an M-hole last night, while lying in bed listening to Sigur Ros.  I took at least two 30-60 sublingual doses, and snorted at least two 20-40 mg lines, but I think I passed out before I holed.  I could definitely feel it starting, though.   I don't understand.  I've been using MXE off and on for months and still haven't fucking holed.  I haven't noticed any detriments to my health up to this point, either.
I've actually read there is no such thing as an M-hole... you can come close but cant really get there completely

I'm never doing MXE again. Even heroin seems safer and honestly its a lot more fun... not expecting anyone to agree with me though   :P
Title: Re: I don't think MXE is safe even though I love it.
Post by: LexusMiles on June 23, 2012, 07:15 am
To me (and a few others I assume too), MXE has a therapeutic / medicinal quality to it. Its a comfy lifestyle substance which IMO is best taken no more than once per 3 days or twice per five days. Those aren't entirely arbitrary numbers I've selected. Why those numbers? For me the nice after-glow / contentment from a decent MXE session lasts about 3-4 days with no significant desires to have some more. Also aiming to keep tolerance low is a big help.

I don't doubt that its not a good substance for some people, so I don't want to try and convince anyone that "its good". I just want to encourage a thoughtful dosing regime because the experience I've had so far I would like others the opportunity too. With a 1 session per 3 days or 2 sessions per 5 days I think 1G lasts about 2 months, and tolerance seems to stay low (so far).
Title: Re: I don't think MXE is safe even though I love it.
Post by: moonflower on June 23, 2012, 06:26 pm
i think mxe is relatively safe... i've gone through 500 mg in 3 days with no negative effects. if you are doing it often enough that it's detrimental to your health, it's time to take a break.
Title: Re: I don't think MXE is safe even though I love it.
Post by: zingzong on June 23, 2012, 10:34 pm
Facts on MXE at http://roflcoptr.co.uk
Title: Re: I don't think MXE is safe even though I love it.
Post by: rise_against on June 24, 2012, 12:03 am
has anyone here experienced any allergic reactions from MXE, rashes, etc.? 
Title: Re: I don't think MXE is safe even though I love it.
Post by: tuna on June 25, 2012, 06:20 pm
I am always surprised how different people react on MXE.
For me MXE is very sedative:
 - never experienced changes in heard rate or blood pressure
 - I used it so many times to come down from stimulants and  falling to sleep very fast
 - it gets ride of all anxiety
 I don't like full dissociation so I don't use big doses.
What is interesting I absolutely do not care about music while on it.. but with other drugs an when sober I listen to music and enjoy it almost all the time.
Title: Re: I don't think MXE is safe even though I love it.
Post by: Limetless on June 25, 2012, 06:37 pm
People react differently to MXE because it's a drug where different isomers are produced instead of a standard isomer like Bing for instance.
Title: Re: I don't think MXE is safe even though I love it.
Post by: rise_against on June 26, 2012, 08:31 am
i feel it wakes me up and makes me more alert. i can stay up all night if i keep doing it. sometimes i feel as if it lifts the veil up and gives me the answers to life.
Title: Re: I don't think MXE is safe even though I love it.
Post by: Limetless on June 26, 2012, 08:54 am
Only thing I would say is that despite what people say MXE is just as bad for your kidneys as K. A friend of mine was quite into it at one point and he ended up pissing blood after too many binges. Epic fail.
Title: Re: I don't think MXE is safe even though I love it.
Post by: war on June 26, 2012, 09:00 am
I dont know HOW you guys can handle MXE!  My experience on it was pretty psychotic and definitely scary to say the least....  By the end of it I had convinced myself I was going permanently wacky... I dont think dissociatives are for me ;) 
Title: Re: I don't think MXE is safe even though I love it.
Post by: Limetless on June 26, 2012, 09:24 am
I dont know HOW you guys can handle MXE!  My experience on it was pretty psychotic and definitely scary to say the least....  By the end of it I had convinced myself I was going permanently wacky... I dont think dissociatives are for me ;)

Tbh I don't particularly like it. I tried it once or twice but I just prefer Ketamine.
Title: Re: I don't think MXE is safe even though I love it.
Post by: Gary Oak on June 26, 2012, 10:02 am
I dont know HOW you guys can handle MXE!  My experience on it was pretty psychotic and definitely scary to say the least....  By the end of it I had convinced myself I was going permanently wacky... I dont think dissociatives are for me ;)

It works differently for each person is my explanation, for example MXE gives me strong opiate effects minus the negative ones including withdrawal and addiction. It makes music sound better, although not to the level that 2C-E or LSD does. It can help me get to sleep, or even give me energy depending on the dosage. One major plus to MXE is that it works as a great potentiator for my other favored drugs, especially cannabis. MXE is cheap enough that it doesn't break my bank, and because it makes smoking bud so much more potent I don't have to spend as much on weed either. As of now it seems less dangerous than alcohol, so I'd much rather snort a quick bump and feel good rather than down a few beers and feel sick. MXE is a wonder drug I think as it has such a wide range of uses and always pleasantly surprises me when I try a new dose. I don't recommend it to anyone I know though because I'm aware of how much more experience I have taking drugs as a whole than most and doubt they'll understand it in the same way I do, but I'm more than happy giving advice to those who're curious. ^-^
Title: Re: I don't think MXE is safe even though I love it.
Post by: mito on June 26, 2012, 04:26 pm
By the end of it I had convinced myself I was going permanently wacky...

That's what I like of MXE or K.

It looks like you're in another dimension and won't get out, but then you just slip out of it.

It's fun.

Do it in front of two mirrors placed perpendicular to each other.   Then keep watching multiple views of yourself while under a dissociative state.   It's amazing.
Title: Re: I don't think MXE is safe even though I love it.
Post by: Limetless on June 26, 2012, 04:39 pm
I have mentioned this previously I think but the best K-Quote I ever heard is this -

"That's the thing about Ketamine, when you are on it the world make sense but then you come down and everything is confusing again"

Heard it from some guy we met on the train home from a night out at Fabric, was epic.
Title: Re: I don't think MXE is safe even though I love it.
Post by: mito on June 26, 2012, 05:09 pm
Do You Know? - Methoxetamine

Methoxetamine can be used in the treatment of coronavirus infection. Methoxetamine can be used as a treatment urinary incontinence. Methoxetamine can maintain blood pressure during surgery. Methoxetamine is an adrenergic alpha-agonist. Methoxetamine is a vasopressors. Methoxetamine is also an nasal decongestants. Methoxetamine is used to treat Paroxysmal supraventricular tachycardia (PSVT) - occasional rapid heart rate

http://methoxetaminemxe.blogspot.ca/2011/02/do-you-know-methoxetamine.html
Title: Re: I don't think MXE is safe even though I love it.
Post by: Limetless on June 26, 2012, 05:11 pm
Do You Know? - Methoxetamine

Methoxetamine can be used in the treatment of coronavirus infection. Methoxetamine can be used as a treatment urinary incontinence. Methoxetamine can maintain blood pressure during surgery. Methoxetamine is an adrenergic alpha-agonist. Methoxetamine is a vasopressors. Methoxetamine is also an nasal decongestants. Methoxetamine is used to treat Paroxysmal supraventricular tachycardia (PSVT) - occasional rapid heart rate

http://methoxetaminemxe.blogspot.ca/2011/02/do-you-know-methoxetamine.html

LMAO you are aware what that page is for aren't you Mito?
Title: Re: I don't think MXE is safe even though I love it.
Post by: mito on June 26, 2012, 05:22 pm
lol @ experience report:  http://www.zoklet.net/bbs/showthread.php?t=226967

Title: Re: I don't think MXE is safe even though I love it.
Post by: mito on June 26, 2012, 05:26 pm
Do You Know? - Methoxetamine

Methoxetamine can be used in the treatment of coronavirus infection. Methoxetamine can be used as a treatment urinary incontinence. Methoxetamine can maintain blood pressure during surgery. Methoxetamine is an adrenergic alpha-agonist. Methoxetamine is a vasopressors. Methoxetamine is also an nasal decongestants. Methoxetamine is used to treat Paroxysmal supraventricular tachycardia (PSVT) - occasional rapid heart rate

http://methoxetaminemxe.blogspot.ca/2011/02/do-you-know-methoxetamine.html

LMAO you are aware what that page is for aren't you Mito?

It's a blog, what am I missing?     :-\
Title: Re: I don't think MXE is safe even though I love it.
Post by: Limetless on June 26, 2012, 05:29 pm
Do You Know? - Methoxetamine

Methoxetamine can be used in the treatment of coronavirus infection. Methoxetamine can be used as a treatment urinary incontinence. Methoxetamine can maintain blood pressure during surgery. Methoxetamine is an adrenergic alpha-agonist. Methoxetamine is a vasopressors. Methoxetamine is also an nasal decongestants. Methoxetamine is used to treat Paroxysmal supraventricular tachycardia (PSVT) - occasional rapid heart rate

http://methoxetaminemxe.blogspot.ca/2011/02/do-you-know-methoxetamine.html

LMAO you are aware what that page is for aren't you Mito?

It's a blog, what am I missing?     :-\

No mate pages like that are for SEO purposes lol. They get the sites that sold MXE to the top of Google so when buyers search "Buy MXE online" it will go to a specific site. It's called building backlinks.
Title: Re: I don't think MXE is safe even though I love it.
Post by: Gibbroni on June 27, 2012, 02:35 pm
I have now tried MXE twice. I must say, I don't really "get it". First time was was probably about 50mg sublingual...felt a bit out of it.  Two days later, 100mg over the course of 3 hours or so. I don't really get the appeal. I had to hang on to the walls to move about, I felt trapped in my own head (not uncomfortably so though), music sounded like crap (big downside for me, everything was flanging and tinny)...so I gotta say, I just don't get it.

Never tried ketamine though, and would like to.  Never tried DXM either, but have no desire to really.
Title: Re: I don't think MXE is safe even though I love it.
Post by: aya on June 27, 2012, 07:24 pm
I have now tried MXE twice. I must say, I don't really "get it". First time was was probably about 50mg sublingual...felt a bit out of it.  Two days later, 100mg over the course of 3 hours or so. I don't really get the appeal. I had to hang on to the walls to move about, I felt trapped in my own head (not uncomfortably so though), music sounded like crap (big downside for me, everything was flanging and tinny)...so I gotta say, I just don't get it.

Never tried ketamine though, and would like to.  Never tried DXM either, but have no desire to really.

Hey, have you tried it with good weed though? I remember my first time on MXE some months ago and I tried a 25mg sublingual dose and only felt the symptoms you listed above. They were just very uncomfortable, nothing more. Then yesterday, after I read a little more about it I tried it again. I started with approx. 15 mg intranasally and took some hits of great weed which took the whole experience to another positive level. From there I went on with little bumps and hits here and there and it was such a different and much better experience.
(Also as previously mentioned both of these substances potentiate each other, so start with low doses.)

I can only recommend Methoxetamine + Weed.
Title: Re: I don't think MXE is safe even though I love it.
Post by: mito on June 27, 2012, 09:28 pm
I had to hang on to the walls to move about, I felt trapped in my own head (not uncomfortably so though),


That's part of the fun....  :D

The music part I agree, it sound a bit distorted....     The other day I had MXE after 6-APB and music sounded awesome, vibrant.
Title: Re: I don't think MXE is safe even though I love it.
Post by: nomad bloodbath on June 27, 2012, 09:38 pm
I just took 40mg sublingal as a nasal decongestant while on my MDA ride.
It worked within 15 minutes.

:)
nomad
Title: Re: I don't think MXE is safe even though I love it.
Post by: Gary Oak on June 27, 2012, 11:02 pm
I had to hang on to the walls to move about, I felt trapped in my own head (not uncomfortably so though),


That's part of the fun....  :D

The music part I agree, it sound a bit distorted....     The other day I had MXE after 6-APB and music sounded awesome, vibrant.

Try listening to different music. I found Autechre sounds fucking amazing on MXE, it just fits the whole MXE persona. Not to mention the robotic movements to the videos look pretty cool on it too! :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2yIpPe-gjQ
Title: Re: I don't think MXE is safe even though I love it.
Post by: happyroller1234 on June 29, 2012, 01:30 am
I had to hang on to the walls to move about, I felt trapped in my own head (not uncomfortably so though),


That's part of the fun....  :D

The music part I agree, it sound a bit distorted....     The other day I had MXE after 6-APB and music sounded awesome, vibrant.

Try listening to different music. I found Autechre sounds fucking amazing on MXE, it just fits the whole MXE persona. Not to mention the robotic movements to the videos look pretty cool on it too! :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2yIpPe-gjQ

Sigur Ros and (some) Joseph Arthur (particularly "Honey and the Moon") are beautiful on MXE.
Title: Re: I don't think MXE is safe even though I love it.
Post by: Gary Oak on June 29, 2012, 06:37 am
I had to hang on to the walls to move about, I felt trapped in my own head (not uncomfortably so though),


That's part of the fun....  :D

The music part I agree, it sound a bit distorted....     The other day I had MXE after 6-APB and music sounded awesome, vibrant.

Try listening to different music. I found Autechre sounds fucking amazing on MXE, it just fits the whole MXE persona. Not to mention the robotic movements to the videos look pretty cool on it too! :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2yIpPe-gjQ

Sigur Ros and (some) Joseph Arthur (particularly "Honey and the Moon") are beautiful on MXE.

I fucking tear up every time I hear Starálfur when I watch The Life Aquatic. So beautiful. :'(

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPMf8G8Pi5o
Title: Re: I don't think MXE is safe even though I love it.
Post by: war on June 29, 2012, 09:15 am
lol @ experience report:  http://www.zoklet.net/bbs/showthread.php?t=226967

LOL - Zoklet is so sad
Title: Re: I don't think MXE is safe even though I love it.
Post by: topia on July 27, 2012, 01:03 pm
Im gonna agree with the OP on this one.  Not safe but I love it.  But how important is safety?

I had a major psychotic episode after using about 10 grams in about 2.5-3 weeks.  All day, every day, and then abruptly stopping when I ran out.   The trick is to go easy on the shit and everything will be okay...
I have also seen a friend go limp and comatose drooling on herself with a big line of mxe combined with a pint or so of gin.  Not smart, I know, but It was terrifying - all we could do was make sure that she was breathing and get her out of the bar. 

I agree with all yall that ketamine is better- searching for a cheap K substitute led me to MXE.  These days I'll still fuck with the MXE but really will go out of my way to stick to the K.  Also the long half life of the MXE can be annoying compared to the quick up and down of K.
Title: MXE, antidepression, and bladder/liver health
Post by: outoftime20 on July 30, 2012, 02:06 pm
Does anyone have experience with low dose MXE as an antidepressant?
Title: Re: MXE, antidepression, and bladder/liver health
Post by: mito on July 30, 2012, 05:41 pm
Does anyone have experience with low dose MXE as an antidepressant?

yes, it is wonderful
Title: Re: MXE, antidepression, and bladder/liver health
Post by: TheAbsurd on July 30, 2012, 05:42 pm
Does anyone have experience with low dose MXE as an antidepressant?
It really seemed to help my friend in that department. I met him after he started using it so I don't know if he was depressed, but he's totally manic right now in a good way. He's just really inspired and outgoing and following his dreams. But I've also heard it can be the opposite and you go "crazy".

My friend also said this feels really unsafe sometimes, like he's fucking up his brain or something.